Get to Know My Mom: A No Nonsense Childhood, Miscarriage in the Early 90s, and Being a Work from Home Mom with Lise Gulick

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One of the biggest influences on my life is going to pour into YOU on the podcast today — my biggest role model, my mom — Lise Gulick.

She is small town Iowa born and raised, mom of 3, wife of 35 years, has held various jobs in very different career fields, was a SAHM for a handful of years, has faced a lot of trials, but has stayed steady & positive through it all.

In part one, you'll hear about my mom's childhood and what makes her who she is today, what her career path has looked like despite having a "resume gap" from being a stay at home mom for 20 years, how she balanced motherhood and work while working from home in the early 90s, coping with a miscarriage when the conversation around pregnancy loss was nonexistent, and how a burn accident 8 years ago affected her.

I know she will bless and encourage you in so many ways! Time for you to get to know my mom, Lise Gulick!

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FULL TRANSCRIPT

[00:00:00] Wow. Am I excited for this, this week? Both today and on Thursday, it's a two part episode, a two-part interview. You get to listen in on a conversation with my biggest role model. My mom, Lisa Goolik, obviously this is in celebration of mother's day because she's my mom and we just got to celebrate mother's day yesterday.

If you're listening on Monday, but in this two-part episode, you are going. I mean everything so much. She's such a fun person and has so much experience both in life and motherhood. And I wanted you to get to glean from her what I've gotten to learn and see and grow from. And how she lives her life the last 30 years, I've gotten to see that.

And so I want you to experience some of my amazing mother. So Lisa, my mom, she's a small town, Iowa born and raised woman. She's a mom of three. She's been a wife of 35 years to my dad, Steve. Um, she's worked as an early educator. She's got her degree and [00:01:00] early education, but she's also worked in banking for a few decades.

There. She was a stay at home mom and more recently she's transitioned into real estate. Again, a couple of decades of being home. So her career trajectory has been all over the place and what's super cool is in this first half, in this first part, you get to hear a lot about career and motherhood. And for part of her working experience early on in her early years of motherhood, she worked from home part-time, which is like what a lot of moms are in right now.

So really cool stuff that you'll get to listen on. She also experienced a miscarriage and a time that, uh, that was not like a common conversation to have. So she shares a little bit about that. You get to hear about her childhood, what makes her, who she is, and you're going to see a lot of similarities and how I am, and, um, just the.

Trials that she's in dirt and her life, including a major burn accident in 2014 and how that has shaped who she is and how she shows up. So that's what you're gonna hear about in this first half. The second half [00:02:00] is coming on Thursday. It's so good. But now, um, right now her and my dad live in Charleston, South Carolina, we were actually visiting them at the time where I got to record this.

So we were in person together. I just can't wait for you to learn from my mom's. From 30 years of motherhood and be encouraged by her story by her life. And simply we get to know this amazing woman I get to call my mom.

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I'm excited to have you on today. I know a lot of our listeners, so thanks for coming [00:04:00] on and taking time out of your busy schedule to do this. I'm excited. I'm happy to, I think it'll be fun. Cool. So you have a lot of experience as a mom, obviously. 30 years, at least. Um, but some really cool life experience as well.

And I think you're an amazing person. And I think a lot of listeners today are going to take something away from what you share. So let's take it all the way back to your childhood. What was it like, just tell me about your. You know what my childhood was kind of a no nonsense is probably the best way to describe it.

Very honestly, it was like, all the dots are connected. They're really wise. So I grew up in a very small town in Iowa. Everybody knew everyone. And so I'm super small and super close knit though. If anything ever happened in your face? Everybody was there to help you out. That's cool. So it was very close knit community.

On the other hand, it was a very close knit community. So everybody knew everything that everybody did, which is [00:05:00] good and bad sometimes. Um, so stories. Yeah. So I loved it though, because you have, we had a freedom growing up in childhood where we were just sent outside. We did things we played with all of our names.

I grew up in such a small town. You could see from one end to the other end. So you knew when the 12 o'clock whistle went off at noon to go home for lunch, you knew when the six o'clock was the one off at dinnertime to go home for dinner. And that's just the way we grew up. And it was very no-nonsense.

Everybody had chores at home. Everybody helped. Um, you're one of four. I am one of four. I am the second born. I have an older sister and two younger. We all helped in my father's office, which was attached to our home. My dad was a veterinarian. Um, for the first part of my life, my mother did not work, but she volunteered in everything.

She was on the library board, scholarship committee, all kinds of things in [00:06:00] town, tried to get a community pool going. Oh, did she really? Oh yeah. I'm not surprised. She went to one of the local business owners and tried to get him to donate money for a pool. Oh my gosh. I didn't know that. So, but before you guys moved to that town, you were in Ames, Iowa, right?

When grandpa was in vet school? Yes, my dad was in vet veterinarian school at Iowa state. And your older sister were kids. My older sister went to kindergarten there. Okay. But I was two when we moved, so I don't remember much of it, but we lived in the same community with all the other vet students. Okay.

My father went to vet school, but also worked in a grocery store. Part-time oh, I didn't know that. And my mother. Okay. So seeing obviously grandpa and vet school, like that's a lot of schooling, especially back in that day. And then seeing grandma do so much in the community, even if she wasn't working, but then also she like basically ran his vet business.

Does that ever influence what you thought you wanted to be when you grew up or like what your goals were as an [00:07:00] adult? Did that influence what you wanted to do with your life at any capacity? Yes, it did influence us, but I don't think we realized it. So when we were growing up, we all just assumed that we were all going to go to college.

I mean, we, we never talked about it. It just was an assumption. You were going to go to college and we all did. We all worked hard for things that we had. Or things that we did, we all had jobs growing up. You played like every sport cause you were in a small town. Cause we could, yes, we did. My brothers played offense and defense in football.

I was a cheerleader, but I was in the marching band in my cheerleading uniform at the football. And we were on almost sports, basketball, track, softball, baseball, all kinds of sports, things, all the things. And I do remember my parents coming to every single event, no matter what it was, we were in marching band and all kinds of things.

That's interesting. And I know grandpa was super busy cause even when I was around, he [00:08:00] was still working, gone all the time. So it's neat that he prioritized that. And I know that's something you guys both have prioritized to. And it was really special to have that growing up. You moved away after, well, for college, you moved away a little bit, a little distance for school and then moved away after having kids.

Um, and you grew up with family so close by. So did that. How was that moving, moving a few hours away for college, but then moving further away afterwards. Um, I always wanted to move away. I did, I loved where I grew up. I would never give up any of anything of where I grew up. It was a great town. Um, but I also knew there was a lot more out there.

My parents were very big on travel every year. We took a family vacation somewhere and some were different. Um, I think my sister. It's the only one who probably did not have an overseas experience, but she chose not to. She didn't want to do it as you would in high school. Right. I went to France in high school and my two brothers went [00:09:00] overseas in college.

And that influenced some of your like independence and that just go get after it attitude that you have honestly have. That's been instilled in me in some capacity, which is good and bad. I'm sorry. I apologize. I've been with, we've been traveling a lot in person with her right now, which is really exciting, but, um, we've been talking about this last few days, cause we've been, I've been in Charleston with her and it's hilarious.

See some of this stuff lines up. Did that influence kind of your outlook and your attitude about everything? So there's a, I guess there's a couple things with that. My attitude and my outlook on travel and trying different things has always been good because my mother always instilled that in us. My father's a little more conservative, but my mom was always the one to say, just try it, see what happens all you can do is fail.

Yeah. And learned from that in some way, right. Age, old [00:10:00] lesson. And my dad did not like to lose. So if it was something he wasn't good at, he wouldn't do it. So I got a little bit of both of that in me. Oh, funny and college, you studied early childhood education and you taught preschool for awhile, right? And later in life, he went to back to a daycare.

So you've used that experience a few times, but your career trajectory, I feel like has been all over the board. So what, give the listeners a download on what your career path looked like? So when I graduated from college, I taught preschool at a university school and the university school I taught at, we had Iowa state, Iowa state university.

Yes, I do cheer for the mountaineers sometimes. That's right. But I taught at the university school for a little bit, which was interesting because they were the professors childrens. And so professors, children, excuse me. And they [00:11:00] were from all over the country. At one time we had two Chinese students and I thought maybe they could converse with.

But they couldn't because one was Cantonese and one was Mandarin. Oh, interesting. So they had, they could not communicate at all with each other. So I learned a lot from that. Um, and that's where I met my husband. And after we got married, we moved to Chicago and I had a teaching degree, but it didn't transfer to them.

Oh, okay. And so I would've had to get recertified. Yeah. So rather than that, I took a temporary job at a bank, which was provisional, meaning no paid holidays, no time off, no health benefits, nothing. And if you worked well and did well, then they would hire you on full-time full-time and that is what happened.

I got hired on full-time and that was a great experience. I got to work in all kinds of different investment fields and also got to help them establish their onsite daycare. And a little bit of your degree thinking [00:12:00] field I did. And then they also, when I had two children allow me to, well, actually when I had Liz and she was a little bit older, allowed me to work part-time and then part-time from home, which think about that.

That was early nineties and I was working part-time from home. That is not the norm. So that was a great experience. When you worked from home, how did you balance that with a little one? Because a lot of the listeners do that, especially in and out like the day and age today. That's so much more normal to work from home or virtually.

How did you balance that? Especially when they weren't like the resources or the moral support around other people going through a similar situation? Well, I think I was fortunate because I worked part time. Yeah, but even part-time, that's hard, but because mommy has 24 7, but you were also preschool-aged so you were in preschool part-time okay.

So the benefit for me was the amount of time Liz was in preschool was the amount of time [00:13:00] I could work. And I found myself to be much more efficient working at home because when you work, I worked for a trust company, so it was a large corporation. I were at a desk. People come by your desk and they talk to you about things, which you don't realize how much time that takes out of your day until you get home and you start working.

And I mean, I would get my work done. I literally call into my manager and say, can you give me something else? I am done? But they were giving me the same workload that the people at work were doing. Yeah. Something else. I know we talked about this a few years ago, but you, when you start a task, you finish it too until completion.

And you're like, okay, I'm going to, and you always, and this is something, eat that frog, like do the hardest thing first. You're really good about that. You're like, this is the hardest thing on the list that I need to do today, or it's something I don't want to do. And you just get it out of the way first.

And that takes a lot of discipline. So you think that's just how you saw grandma and grandpa growing up. And so that was [00:14:00] instilled in you. Wow. That's hard to do for a lot of people. So why are you there? That's a really good question. And I don't know why, but in my mind, I always think do the most difficult thing first, get it done, because then it frees up the rest of your day to do other things.

And I get so much more accomplished because otherwise I think what you find yourself doing is avoiding. Yeah. You will do any other little thing to avoid doing the one major thing. Yeah. Especially if it's an uncomfortable thing to do. Yes. That's really wise. I'm always learning stuff from her. So after your second was born, you became a stay at home.

Mom. How was that transition for you? Was it hard to feel valuable going from working and finding success in the job that you did and then making that switch? How was that? So part of me always wanted to be, I don't want to say just a mom because I know what that involves, but you do, you know, I just, I just want it to be the mom.

Um, the [00:15:00] other part of me, can't say I've missed the social interaction from a corporate environment because I did not miss that. I missed some of the. Well, I found the most difficult was at the time my husband's office was at home also any traveled a lot as well. Yeah. And so what I couldn't understand is when he got home, why he couldn't help out.

And so it took us probably a good three years to get to an agreement or a realization of what his job was really like and what I was really doing at home and how we could help each other out. It, it, it was. That was the hardest part. Did it just take a lot of messy communication and yes. Yeah. It's honestly, it was not fun.

Yeah. Yeah. Marriage is hard. I've learned that. It's definitely hard. How did you navigate those conversations and kind of come to a place? Like, what did it look like once you three years you said, took about three years. What did that [00:16:00] look like once you had it figured out? Cause I remembered, I mean, dad traveled so much for work.

He was gone a lot and what I had to realize. When you're traveling, you really don't have that much time to get that much done. So when he got home, he would have to catch up on his emails, you know, send correspondence. But the one thing he did do is he always made time to help get the kids to bed. That's huge.

And then he would stay up until midnight, one or two in the morning getting his stuff done, just so he could have that time. Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know. I'd stay up that late. Cause I went to bed at like eight 30. Yeah, no, he would, he would stay up much later to get things done. Wow. Let's focus on the career side of things right now.

We can talk about the schedules and the routine and everything with parenthood. Cause you did that. First of all. But you did recently transitioned back to working and you're in real estate and you're rocking it. So how was that transition? When did you know? It was, I know, I remember when all of us started getting older, you were like thinking about working [00:17:00] back at a school and you didn't just dive right into real estate.

You went to a daycare. So was that a hard transition? How did you decide it was time? What did that look like? So when our youngest got his driver's license, Realized that, you know, it wasn't really, and I know this'll sound bad, but it's not a bad thing, but I wasn't really needed as much anymore on the parental front.

You know, once you're a parent, you're always a parent, but I wasn't driving someone around, dropping them off. You know, I wasn't driving back and forth to school. I wasn't running all these errands and honestly, I was. I thought three saying, oh my gosh, I was bored. I thought my house can only be so clean. I have nothing else to do.

And I kind of felt like I was, um, losing something intellectually. Mm. Yeah. You know, like my brain just wasn't firing as well and things to be challenged. I wasn't, and I think that's what I missed. So I went back to work and ran an infant room and a [00:18:00] daycare, which I loved. I love babies. Um, Probably in the best physical shape I've ever been in because so many squats, you bend down, pick babies up, move around.

You never sit down when you have an infant or a child. And I'm sure right back to the beginning of, oh my gosh. And I'm sure a lot of you know that right now, especially at this stage in life, you're in, you were like, oh, I was born. People were probably like, I can't wait for that.

I was born. Um, that was what, 16 years then more than 16? Yeah. 23 years into parenthood. Yes. So. And fine. So then after that, my husband, um, had a change in careers and got into real estate and asked if I wanted to join him. And I don't know if you'll laugh at this or you'll think, oh, this is sad. But I thought to myself, I laughed.

I don't know if I can work with my husband. He said, no, no, just get your license. It'll be okay. It'll be great. Well, first of all, getting your license is about 40 to 80 hours of classes. You have to pass a national test and a state [00:19:00] test. I probably hadn't taken the standardized. Oh, yeah. In decades. Oh my gosh.

I can't remember the last time. So I don't know if I wanted to spend the time or the money doing it. So I said, let me be your admin first. So I did administrative work for him for about a year before I got my license and then I got my license and it's a good thing I did because. He was lured back into healthcare and a job there that you just couldn't say no to, which has been very, we've been very fortunate.

Um, it's been a great job. So I took over the real estate and I really do enjoy it. Um, you're doing really well with it now. Thank you. It's flexible, but it's not fun. Yeah. If you need a real estate agent in Charleston, South Carolina, call up Lisa Goolik. She's your girl. Thank you for the plug thankless I'll link gamble.

What are you dreaming of now? Do you have any career goals? It's been such a unique path career wise, and I think a lot of moms face that nowadays, especially with the flexibility that different work [00:20:00] options provide. So, I mean, I haven't even experienced that major pivoting with what I want to do career-wise and what my focus is in life.

So do you have anything that you're dreaming of now? It's like the second half of life and you're just getting started with a new career again and doing really well with it. So. That's a good question. So not something that anybody really wants to hear, but I really don't set goals very well. I never have, I just jump into something and just do it.

And my feeling is that you can be successful, but your success relies on how you treat the other people, how you work for the other people that rely on you. Yeah. So if you did the best job you can, by the people that you provide. I guess that's my goal. Just do the best job you can for the people you work with.

And then what happens? The success comes after that. How do you define that? How do you define success? It can be so hard to do as a mom because you're in the mundane [00:21:00] day-to-day and I'm not just talking about motherhood specifically, but just in life in general, when do you know you feel successful at something or you've done a good job.

You've served the people. Yeah. So I can speak from it in real estate. I can speak from it just saying, I feel like I've done a good job when I see that the happiness that it provides, where they feel like, oh my gosh, this is really my home. I love it. Thank you. So when somebody says, thank you, you feel like you've really done a good job.

And as far as parenthood goes, I mean, we all make mistakes and heaven knows I have made mistakes, but the happiness. And when you feel like you've reached the goal in parenthood, which is ongoing, even though I have a 30 year old who has two children of her own, it's just ongoing, but the joy you get from seeing your children succeed and how they want to succeed.

And that doesn't mean it's how I want them to be. It means how they are happy. [00:22:00] So definition of success. The happiness you see in them, not my definition, but their definition of success. Yeah. It's also unique. It is so unique and my three children are so different, so different, so different. It's not a spectrum, it's a triangle and, oh my gosh.

So it's a perfect transition into parenting. So let's go back to the start of it at the time that you became a mom early night. Uh, the conversation around miscarriages and fertility, it wasn't very open. Was it was that really talked about much at all? No, not at all. And you did suffer a miscarriage prior to me.

So how was that in that day and age? When, like, who did you lean on? How did you process that was your experience? So there really wasn't, there weren't any other females to talk to, even your sister, your mom. Well, my sister never had a miscarriage. Um, my mom made. She didn't talk about it. But in that day and age, they probably didn't even know [00:23:00] honestly, that they had one.

How did you cope with not having really anyone to lean lean on female wise to process it with? Well, I felt like I did something wrong. Yeah. You know, you feel like it's your fault that had happened when in reality that baby D. Wasn't forming and wasn't, wasn't ready to be a baby. So that baby would happen was after about, gosh, I don't know where I was in my first trimester.

I must've just been just past eight weeks and had gone in for testing and things. And they couldn't the test, the blood test came back low or something. I forget what the hormone is. They look for HTG yes. And so then they did an ultrasound and they had to do an internal ultra. And that's when they realized no, there was there truly wasn't it was a massive cells that was not passing.

Yeah. I remember you being really straightforward with me. I don't even remember the [00:24:00] age that I learned about that, but I remember you just being very straightforward and honest, and I do remember. You telling me that there was a baby before me, but it didn't make it. So I kind of have an older sibling, but not really.

Um, how did you decide to, I mean, if you even remember, did you decide you were going to go about communicating that in a specific way or was it just if it comes up, if it came up, we just discussed it. I didn't think about communicating it in a certain way at all. Was that something that took a while for you to be okay with.

How was it afterwards? That probably goes to how I was raised. Um, when things happen, you just get through it. Yeah. I mean, that's all there is to it. I've seen you do that in a lot of different trials. You don't have a choice. I mean, you can't, you're not going to give up, you can get angry, you can get sad and go through all those emotions, which I [00:25:00] did, but you're not just going to stop.

Yeah. Share with the listeners about your burn accident and how that was a big, I know it's like a little pivot from parenthood real quick from motherhood, but share with them how that trial affected you. That's the most I've ever seen you challenge mentally. So that's a tough one. Cause you know, when you go through it, you don't think about being mentally challenged.

You just think about getting through the. Or the moment or the moment that's very true. And a lot of medication, I will say that it was a lot of medication. I stopped taking some of it. Cause I didn't like the way it made me made me feel. But, um, I think my main concern was how it affected my kids because they're, they're used to having you there quite the nurture care, which is good and bad, good and bad.

Liz was far away. So I worried about Liz being far away and dealing with it. And, you know, fortunately she had a [00:26:00] group, thank goodness. She had a group there she could count on. And then I was worried about my kids that were at home too, because my two youngest word home and they heard it happened and they ran out in the back porch and saw, yeah.

And I had jumped into our pool because my first thought was, well, what else do I do? You know, I didn't, I couldn't get to the whole. And the pool door was locked. So I ran out through the garage and jumped into the pool. Um, and I far away to go, but I didn't think about that. Yeah. But anyway, got there and I've jumped in the pool and, you know, I heard my husband can't say call nine 11.

And I remember saying, please don't have them use the sirens. Cause I didn't want them to scare my kids that were home. It was Memorial day, weekend, 2013. I had just seen her cause we were going down to FCA camp in St. Simon's island. And I had just gotten home. It was Monday I had just gotten home and dad called me that night and basically the gas was leaking on the grill and you went to light the grill, right?

So. Oddly enough. I like to mow the lawn. So, [00:27:00] and this goes into this story and I know Liz is laughing. Like, where's she going with this? She does like, it's my quiet time. And I get that. I do drive. I drive with the music off now sometimes. Oh my gosh. It's so peaceful. I know I get it now. So I get on, plus you can get a good tan on the lawnmower.

So, and I had a cup holder noted, so I got on our riding Loma or a lawnmower and I, I pre. The gas grill cause they wanted to warm it up. So I could just throw some brought and things on and we'd just gotten back from boating. So my husband was cleaning the boat with a neighbor and I mowed the lawn. Then I went back after mowing the lawn and the, um, grill had quit.

It wasn't lit anymore. So I lifted the lid and I pushed the start button again. Well, gas had. I guess going somehow into the grill so that when I lit the grill, it just, [00:28:00] when you lifted it, all the fumes came out probably. Well, when I lifted it, the gas, I don't know, must have still been going. Yeah. So when I hit the, I just remember seeing it, when I hit the gas grill button, this big ball of it just went boom.

And this big ball of fire came out and went straight. Yeah. And then straight up me cause I was standing right there. Yeah. So that's all I remember most of it anyway. Yeah. Yeah. And then running out to the pool and just reacting the adrenaline. Must've been crazy. Yeah. I was back at school for summer training and it was before my senior year with volleyball and everything.

So I couldn't come back. Wouldn't have been a good time for you to come back anyway because honestly the first few weeks, it probably wasn't so much, I, you were in my house. I was, yeah, I was at a burn center and I had no clue what was going on. So the first few weeks them back after your first surgery tonight, dad was like, you'll probably hear from her in a few days.

I got called from here that I know, I was like, oh my gosh, mom. And you were [00:29:00] out of it. I can laugh about it now this weekend, but I remember your sister came to visit and we, I talked to her a lot and she was just talking about how, like, you don't cry very often at all. I'm a crier now. I think it's like the early motherhood stage when stuff is hard and you're more homeless.

It will breastfeed. I used to be really emotional when I was younger, but I'll probably go away again, but she's not a crier. And I remember my aunt telling me that she's never seen you cry this much because you were just frustrated when you got home and she was visiting. Well, it's frustrating because you can't do anything and your doer all the time, you do so much.

Nobody likes to sit still. I mean, not many people like to sit still. I shouldn't pre-qualify that? Yeah. I don't like to sit still. So. That's probably what was hard for me, plus I don't like people seeing me like that. Not because of how I look, but I don't like being treated like I'm not able to do things.

And I can see that in [00:30:00] your personality, just in general. You're just very much so like that. Like I said, a doer, I had to cut you off. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know you want to hear the rest of that conversation. So come back on Thursday, make sure you're subscribed because I'm bringing to you the rest of his conversation on Thursday.

In that half of the episode, we talk about parenting. We talk about what her routine looked like. I mean, my mama. Pilates at 6:00 AM every morning, still she's very active. She always has been. So how she worked that in as a mom of young kids, uh, we talk about body image because that wasn't talked a lot about in the early nineties, but she did help for me develop a very healthy view of my own body.

And I think that's hugely played into my postpartum journey. So we talk about so much of what she did as a mom in my early years and how that helped shape my mindset and who I am now. So. Can I wait for Thursday, make sure that you are subscribed so you don't miss it. All you mamas listening. I hope your mother's day was [00:31:00] phenomenal.

I hope you just feel the continued celebration of who you are and what you do the rest of this week. And you'll hear back from my mom on Thursday before you go. Thank you for spending this time with me on the tough love mom podcast. If this episode encouraged you in any way, the number one way you can thank me is to leave her a review, letting me know how the show has impacted you.

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